Was it something I said?

This morning, I woke up to see Pamela Gentry’s post on Magic Johnson’s endorsement of Clinton. The comments show how utterly uninformed people are. There was one comment in there that I had to reply to, so I did. Unfortunately, it didn’t post. It’s been about 6 hours and still not posted (awaiting moderation it says). So I’ll post it here. The comment I’m replying to read:

Why do people persist in downing Hilary Clinton? If you actually faced facts she has done alot of good. You can’t blame her for what her husband has done. Do you really think we will have a black president with all this racial tension we already have? Do you really think white upperclass americans will actually go for that. They would rather vote on a woman than a man of race. I’m not saying that he would not be a good candidate but I rather go for experience, just like a job. If you went after a good job and didn’t have the experience for what they needed would you get the job? No you wouldn’t they would look to someone who has some experience. If Obama was not running who would you vote for then? Think about it, stop putting race as a factor look beyond the skin.

Gaaaah! Yeah, it made my brain hurt and that’s the level of quality of most of the comments on that blog:

@celest…Can you please be clear and tell me exactly what good Sen. Clinton has done? I’m curious as to what leadership roles she has taken by herself, without waiting to see what the liberal blogosphere or other Senators has to say. This is a woman who actually has the nerve to call herself progressive, yet she’s done not one thing to show that she is.

And I feel really bad for you that you allow “white upperclass americans” to decided your actions for you. That must be just as bad as being a Republican who lets terrorist determine our foreign and domestic policies. If more black people think like you, no wonder our leadership these days is awful. Instead of voting your conscience you vote to appease and imaginary white upperclass person.

I’m not an Obama supporter, but I do like him. He does have political experience, over 10 years of it to be exact. Anyone who says otherwise is intellectually lazy and only listens to soundbites. Or they’re working for the Clinton campaign. What exactly is Sen. Clinton’s experience? A term in the Senate. That’t is. That’s less political experience than Sen. Obama. Or do you count sleeping with Bill “experience”? Because Team Hillary is hoping that you do. They why they spend an inordinate amount of time tying to convince that Obama is just a ‘boy’

You ask:
If Obama was not running who would you vote for then? Think about it, stop putting race as a factor look beyond the skin.
You know there are more than 2 people in this race. I know that the media would have you believe otherwise. They choose your frontrunners for you. It’s stupid, shallow and shows how lazy they are, but they do it. Out of the whole Democratic field (the Republicans are just torture loving nutjob-y religionist, IMHO), Chris Dodd is the best thing for the US right now. When was the last time Pamela on Politics wrote an article about him? Did you even know that Dodd has been fighting against giving the telecom companies retroactive* immunity for their part in their illegal spying upon Americans at the request of the WH? Do you know anything about Dodd at all?

*After this, I’m paraphrasing as the rest of my comment was cut off, probably for space considerations

Yeah, there’s spelling errors, but I can’t edit, so deal with it. I’m just sick and tired of hearing about Obama’s lack of experience with most of that coming from people who are too lazy to do their own research. I’m sick and tired of people thinking that Clinton has loads of experience because of who she’s married to. I’m sick and tired of people not thinking for themselves.

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4 thoughts on “Was it something I said?

  1. Dodd, I’m leaning Dodd as well. I like him. He’s not perfect, but I like the fact that he’s willing to fight. I had liked Edwards and being a union girl, you’d think I’d be all over that, but I’m the mom of a bi-racial child and he makes me so uncomfortable. I feel like he’s talking at me or at my child instead of having a dialogue. Hillary is out for me, she’s too anti-union. Obama intrigues me, but he hasn’t shown enough unionism yet and I don’t see him leading on anything. Dennis is way left union and I love that about him but hate how he cherry picks the unions he’s interested in. And who does this leave? Biden? UGH, the choices this year for a progressive union girl are just not what I’d hoped for.

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  2. On a personal level, I rather like Obama. He seems sincere, well-spoken and fairly non-manipulative (also, he writes good books; always a plus).

    That said, I object to him for the same basic reason I object to all the Democratic candidates (with a partial exception for Bill Richardson): they all want to respond to society’s problems with welfare, market regulation and taxation (i.e. toned-down socialism).

    Quite frankly, I really can’t support any candidate who seeks to punish the producers in this country in the pursuit of non-existant social utopias.

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  3. UG…I’m with you. I’ve been leaning Dodd since about May or June. On paper, he looks great. I know exactly what you mean about Edwards. I don’t know, there’s a high level of “White Knight”ness about him that makes me very uncomfortable. And ITA on Obama and unions. I wonder if that stance (or non-stance) is the effect of running a different sort of campaign.

    As for you OSV, your little GOP talking points bore me. It’s always a sign of a weak mind, when these issues get regurgitated in regards to Democrats without any actual facts behind them. And quite frankly anyone dimwitted enough to seriously equate taxation with “toned-down socialism” isn’t worth my time or energy.

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  4. “And quite frankly anyone dimwitted enough to seriously equate taxation with “toned-down socialism” isn’t worth my time or energy.”

    Then why the response?

    “It’s always a sign of a weak mind, when these issues get regurgitated in regards to Democrats without any actual facts behind them.”

    Do you actually question my assertion? All of the major Democratic candidates have paraded their close involvement with unions, their opposition to tax cuts for the wealthy and their committment to continued social welfare programs. If you doubt these points, just check out the candidates’ websites.

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